# Superpower Showdown: Jane Perlez

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Podcast: [OCCUPY! An Unfinished Uprising](https://stenobird.com/podcast/occupy-an-unfinished-uprising-503463)
Published: 2026-03-12T00:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.futurehindsight.com/episodes/superpower-showdown-jane-perlez
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Duration seconds: 2359

## Resource

We discuss the influence of the U.S.-China relationship on American democracy, on issues ranging from "garbage time" to soft power to geopolitical dominance of the South China Sea. Jane's civic action toolkit recommendations are: 1) Visit China! 2) Read To Change China by Jonathan Spence and/or Daughters of the Bamboo Grove by Barbara Demick Jane Perlez is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, former New York Times Beijing bureau chief, and fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center. She's also the podcast host of Face-Off: The U.S. vs. China. Let's connect! Follow Future Hindsight on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehindsightpod/ Discover new ways to #BetheSpark: https://www.futurehindsight.com/spark Follow Mila on X: https://x.com/milaatmos Follow Jane Perlez on X: https://x.com/JanePerlez Listen to Face-Off : https://www.belfercenter.org/face-us-vs-china Sponsor: Get the right life insurance for you and save more than 50% on term life insurance at SelectQuote.com/HOPEFUL Early episodes for Patreon supporters: https://patreon.com/futurehindsight Credits: Host: Mila Atmos Guest: Jane Perlez Executive Producer: Mila Atmos Producer: Zack Travis

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