# See Through Copaganda: Alec Karakatsanis

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Podcast: [OCCUPY! An Unfinished Uprising](https://stenobird.com/podcast/occupy-an-unfinished-uprising-503463)
Published: 2026-04-02T09:13:00+00:00
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## Resource

We discuss the main goals of copaganda: narrowing our conception of safety and threat, constantly warning us that those harms are increasing, and telling us that the solution to our fears is more investment in the punishment bureaucracy. Alec's civic action toolkit recommendations are: 1) Educate yourself on how copaganda works 2) Read the Copaganda book in a group! Alec Karakatsanis is the founder and executive director of Civil Rights Corps and author of Copaganda: How Police and the Media Manipulate Our News. Let's connect! Follow Future Hindsight on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehindsightpod/ Discover new ways to #BetheSpark: https://www.futurehindsight.com/spark Follow Mila on X: https://x.com/milaatmos Follow Alec on X: https://x.com/equalityalec/ Read Copaganda : https://bookshop.org/shop/futurehindsight Sponsor: Thank you to Shopify! Sign up for a $1/month trial at shopify.com/hopeful . Get the right life insurance for you and save more than 50% on term life insurance at SelectQuote.com/HOPEFUL Early episodes for Patreon supporters: https://patreon.com/futurehindsight Credits: Host: Mila Atmos Guest: Alec Karakatsanis Executive Producer: Zack Travis Executive Editor: Mila Atmos

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