# Playing Offense for Democracy: Steve Phillips

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Podcast: [OCCUPY! An Unfinished Uprising](https://stenobird.com/podcast/occupy-an-unfinished-uprising-503463)
Published: 2026-05-28T08:59:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.futurehindsight.com/episodes/playing-offense-for-democracy-steve-phillips
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## Resource

We discuss the case for SWAMP audits, how we can truly build a multiracial democracy, and why we're going to have to fight for it. Steve's civic action toolkit recommendations are: 1) Find your Minimum Viable Community and engage 2) Do a SWAMP audit! Steve Phillips is the founder of Democracy in Color, a political media organization dedicated to race, politics, and the multicultural progressive New American Majority. His new book is Are White Men Smarter Than Everybody Else?: Playing Offense in the Fight for Racial Justice in America. Let's connect! Follow Future Hindsight on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehindsightpod/ Discover new ways to #BetheSpark: https://www.futurehindsight.com/spark Follow Mila on X: https://x.com/milaatmos Follow Steve on X: https://x.com/steveptweets Read Are White Men Smarter Than Everybody Else? : https://bookshop.org/shop/futurehindsight Sponsor: Thank you to Shopify! Sign up for a $1/month trial at shopify.com/hopeful . Early episodes for Patreon supporters: https://patreon.com/futurehindsight Credits: Host: Mila Atmos Guests: Steve Phillips Executive Producer: Zack Travis Executive Editor: Mila Atmos

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