# NTSB Board Member Michael Graham on Safety Culture, SMS, and GA Risks

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Podcast: [NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot Lessons](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ntsb-news-talk-aviation-accidents-safety-investigations-pilot-lessons-7333682)
Published: 2025-10-01T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ntsb-news-talk.captivate.fm
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## Resource

In this episode of NTSB News Talk , hosts Max Trescott and Rob Mark welcome Michael Graham, a current member of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), for a deep discussion on the agency’s work and the broader state of aviation safety Graham begins by clarifying the role of NTSB board members, often misunderstood as investigators. While trained in accident investigation, board members function more like the “Supreme Court of Transportation Safety,” deliberating on reports and voting on recommendations that flow from investigative teams. They also serve as media spokespeople at accident sites, coordinate with local authorities, and meet with victims’ families. A major portion of the conversation focuses on advocacy—convincing regulators, manufacturers, operators, and associations to implement safety recommendations. Graham acknowledges that implementation can take years or even decades, citing the long struggle to mandate Positive Train Control in the rail sector. Despite delays, the board persists in pushing for life-saving changes. The discussion then shifts to Safety Management Systems (SMS). Graham describes his advocacy for SMS across Part 135 operators, manufacturers, and repair stations, and highlights FAA Advisory Circular AC 120-92D , which now provides scalable SMS guidance for small operators and even single-pilot GA. This, he says, is a breakthrough that makes SMS practical outside of large organizations. From his Navy background, Graham stresses the role of safety culture: open communication, willingness to accept critique, and rigorous debriefs after every mission. He encourages GA pilots to adapt these practices by critiquing their own flights, flying with peers who can offer feedback, and leveraging available flight data tools. Pilots, he argue…

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