# PAPAL SOCKS: Special ROME episode with James Michael Cardoso Shaeffer

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Podcast: [NOTA BENE: This Week in the Art World](https://stenobird.com/podcast/nota-bene-this-week-in-the-art-world-3678686)
Published: 2025-06-21T11:00:34+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/benjamin-godsill/episodes/PAPAL-SOCKS-Special-ROME-episode-with-James-Michael-Cardoso-Shaeffer-e34hr12
Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/5363dfdc/podcast/play/104442338/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-21%2F25fed777-4c89-d9fe-bf1b-1997bb36388d.mp3
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We are BACK with a special BONUS EPISODE recorded in the Eternal City. Benjamin is joined by guest host and super-gem James Michael Cardoso Shaeffer . We wrap up the dregs of Basel including our experience in Jordan Wolfson's Little Room at the Beyeler . Then it's onto Rome where we discuss Caravaggio, Pasta, Hotels, Socks, Frocks and Gavin Brown . All that and More on THE ONLY ART PODCAST!

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