# David Porter: From Grid Load to Grid Asset: How Data Centers Can Support the Grid Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620/david-porter-from-grid-load-to-grid-asset-how-data-centers-can-support-the-grid Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620/david-porter-from-grid-load-to-grid-asset-how-data-centers-can-support-the-grid.md Podcast: [Not Your Father’s Data Center](https://stenobird.com/podcast/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620) Published: 2026-07-14T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/6e521b85 Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/6e521b85/574835b9.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620/episodes/david-porter-from-grid-load-to-grid-asset-how-data-centers-can-support-the-grid Duration seconds: 2850 ## Resource In this episode, Raymond Hawkins, Chief Revenue Officer at Compass Datacenters, is joined by David Porter, Vice President of Electrification and Sustainable Energy Strategy at EPRI—formerly known as the Electric Power Research Institute. With a career spanning mechanical engineering at Duke Energy, stints across the US energy landscape, and over 17 years at EPRI, David Porter brings deep industry insight into the intersection of energy and data infrastructure. Their discussion explores the rapid evolution of data center power demand, shifting from kilowatt to gigawatt requirements within a decade. The conversation unpacks the unique challenges this poses for power utilities, such as mismatched development timelines, grid transmission constraints, and the need for adaptable grid-responsive infrastructure. Key topics include EPRI’s nonprofit, science-based research mission; the rise of grid-interactive data centers; the DC Flex initiative for flexible load management; and the critical impact of load growth on grid affordability and efficiency. The episode offers a detailed look at how collaboration between data centers and utilities can enhance grid resilience and lower costs for everyone. Timestamped Overview 00:00 Intro 03:25 EPRI's public benefit mission 09:50 Data centers and electric transport 13:02 Energy demand forecasting for developers 15:00 Challenges with data center power constraints 17:49 Transmission vs. distribution systems 21:45 Improving energy transmission efficiency 23:35 Bridging data centers and utilities 28:06 Evolution of the Data Center Industry 31:42 Explaining the Flex Mosaic framework 35:30 Planning for grid capacity challenges 38:31 Importance of Frequency in Power Grids 41:05 Energy demand and frequency issues 45:56 Golfing chat ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620/episodes/david-porter-from-grid-load-to-grid-asset-how-data-centers-can-support-the-grid/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/not-your-father-s-data-center-6239620/david-porter-from-grid-load-to-grid-asset-how-data-centers-can-support-the-grid.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.