# Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations Episode 9: Reaching New Audiences with Barrington Irving and Chana Stiefel Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel.md Podcast: [Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations](https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428) Published: 2025-04-18T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcast.kirstenwlarson.com/e/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrinton-irving-and-chana-stiefel/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vrrfug48grqhxxax/Ep_9_Barrington_Irving_and_Chana_Stiefel6m56l.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/episodes/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel Duration seconds: 1917 ## Resource Let's Fly: How Barrington Irving's Record-Breaking Flight Journey Became a Children's Book | Children's Nonfiction Craft Join host Kirsten Larson as she interviews Chana Stiefel and Captain Barrington Irving about their picture book "Let's Fly: Barrington Irving's Record-Breaking Flight Around the World." Discover the craft behind adapting Barrington's incredible aviation journey from a 50,000-word expedition log to middle grade to a 1,000-word picture book that puts young readers in the co-pilot seat. In this episode of the Nonfiction Kid Lit Craft Conversations podcast, learn about: The process of transforming a middle-grade biography into an engaging picture book How to balance technical aviation details with emotional storytelling for young readers Finding the perfect narrative structure and "thread" for nonfiction picture books The importance of mentorship in both aviation and children's storytelling Behind-the-scenes insights into author-illustrator collaboration This conversation is essential listening for children's book authors, illustrators, educators, librarians, and anyone interested in aviation, STEM education, or the craft of writing compelling nonfiction for children. Links mentioned: The book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709610/lets-fly-by-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel-illustrated-by-shamar-knight-justice/ https://chanastiefel.com https://flyingclassroom.com https://www.bittschool.com Sign up for Kirsten's newsletter (to get the transcript) and to be notified about future episodes: https://kirstenwlarson.com Keywords: children's nonfiction, picture book writing, aviation for kids, STEM education, Barrington Irving, children's book craft, nonfiction picture books, writing process, first-person narrative, author collaboration, kidlit cr… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/episodes/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-7100428/nonfiction-kidlit-craft-conversations-episode-9-reaching-new-audiences-with-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.