# Carbon Bros: Episode 4 (Integration)

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Podcast: [Non-Toxic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/non-toxic-6409838)
Published: 2025-09-05T20:31:41+00:00
Episode link: https://nontoxicpodcast.substack.com/p/carbon-bros-episode-4-integration
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## Resource

The kings of the manosphere love to talk about “integrating” a man’s warrior and civilized self, but how about integrating men, and new ideas of masculinity, into the climate movement instead? What does that look like, who’s doing it, and where are there opportunities for repair and progress? Want to help detoxify the discourse? Smash that like and subscribe! Carbon Bros is a collaboration between Drilled Media and Non-Toxic , written and co-hosted by Amy Westervelt and me, Daniel Penny. If you want to listen to more amazing climate reporting by Amy, head to Drilled’s vast archive . The investigations they’ve done—on everything from the history of greenwashing to dirty oil deals in Guyana—are superb. And if you’d like to support what I’m doing or check out previous seasons of Non-Toxic, become a paid subscriber today. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nontoxicpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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