# 19: Romantically Shitting on Paywalls w/ Pablo

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Podcast: [No Solutions](https://stenobird.com/podcast/no-solutions-7206062)
Published: 2026-04-01T19:52:00+00:00
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## Resource

"I need to build something to test the thing." Pablo & Gigi take a walk. Recorded December 2025. Projects & tech mentioned: TENEX (multi-agent coordination on Nostr) Agora (Nostr client for local communities, by Pablo & Leopoldo Lopez) NDK Swift & NDK Kotlin (native ports of NDK) nostrdb (embedded Nostr database) NIP-60 (Cashu wallets on Nostr) Podcasting 2.0 (open podcast ecosystem) #DeMu (decentralized music on Nostr) Olas (rebuilt with TENEX agents) castr.me (Nostr-to-RSS podcast feed) ants (Nostr search) Boris (reading and highlighting) Pyramid (fiatjaf's invite-tree relay) Kevin Kelly's 1,000 True Fans In this dialogue: Agents tried to fix world hunger: made a Google Doc and a React app, nothing worked, world hunger still not fixed "We're behaving like LLM agents: never learn" Everything Pablo builds is a way to test TENEX: "I need to build something to test the thing" Agora: a Nostr client starting from the premise that you only care about your immediate surroundings Invitation-based trust networks: cryptographic proof of who invited whom into a relay, similar to fiatjaf's Pyramid Citizen journalism use case: pseudonymous publishing where a known figure vouches for a source without revealing identity NIP-60 wallet baked into Agora: your key is no longer just identity, it's also money Social key recovery via Shamir secret sharing: select people you can reach (not necessarily trust), hidden behind follow events Identity migration for stolen keys vs. key loss recovery: two different problems, solvable with similar tools "Fiatjaf had the right ideas around community-based backup and recovery" Romantically shitting on paywalls: you cannot box content in, no matter how hard you try What you can monetize is not the content itself but the relationship, th…

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