# #08: Navigating the Vibe w/ Pablo

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Podcast: [No Solutions](https://stenobird.com/podcast/no-solutions-7206062)
Published: 2025-04-04T10:21:21+00:00
Episode link: https://njump.to/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpx77gg2frul26xkzr0gaq9n842u50axpcjhdsa3yeu388vrv5pftqys8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytn9d9h82mny0fmkzmn6d9njuumsv93k2tcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqsdpepvgml06dcsfuuy0x0jhka9jtwpvqrh5ue6qxmtva2xje7n9aqs5852f
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"With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money, identity, cryptography, and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work." Pablo & Gigi are getting high on glue nostr.   Books and articles mentioned: Saving beauty by Byung-Chul Han LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger In this dialogue: vibeline & vibeline-ui LLMs as tools, and how to use them Vervaeke: AI thresholds & the path we must take Hallucinations and grounding in reality GPL, LLMs, and open-source licensing Pablo's multi-agent Roo setup Are we going to make programmers obsolete? "When it works it's amazing" Hiring & training agents Agents creating RAG databases of NIPs Different models and their context windows Generalists vs specialists "Write drunk, edit sober" DVMCP.fun Recklessness and destruction of vibe-coding  Sharing secrets with agents & LLMs  The "no API key" advantage of nostr What data to trust? And how does nostr help?  Identity, web of trust, and signing data  How to fight AI slop Marketplaces of code snippets  Restricting agents with expert knowledge  Trusted sources without a central repository  Zapstore as the prime example  "How do you fight off re-inventing GitHub?"  Using large context windows to help with refactoring  Code snippets for Olas , NDK , NIP-60, and more Using MCP as the base  Using nostr as the underlying substrate  Nostr as the glue & the discovery layer  Why is this important?  Why is this exciting?  "With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money/identity/cryptography and web-of-trust  baked in, to…

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