# "70" - Climate DEBATE Movement: Money Grab or Real Crisis? Heated Debate Between Ross McKitrick & Simon Donner

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Podcast: [No BS with Brad Smith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/no-bs-with-brad-smith-7712062)
Published: 2026-06-18T16:23:00+00:00
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Ross McKitrick and Simon Donner go head-to-head in a no-holds-barred debate on whether the climate movement is grounded in science or driven by money and power. Al Gore gets dragged into it, things get heated, and both sides lay out their strongest arguments so you can decide for yourself.

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