# "69" - She Protested With Greta Thunberg—Now She Says the Climate Movement Got It Wrong

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Podcast: [No BS with Brad Smith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/no-bs-with-brad-smith-7712062)
Published: 2026-06-03T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1502

## Resource

Lucy Biggers, former climate activist and Head of Social Media at The Free Press, joins Brad to discuss why she left the climate movement, the controversy surrounding the IPCC’s climate models, and the debate over net-zero policies, carbon taxes, and the future of energy.

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