# #78 Dan Sugarman (Ice Nine Kills)

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Podcast: [Nik Nocturnal Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/nik-nocturnal-podcast-6899787)
Published: 2026-04-08T19:00:01+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/nik-nocturnal/episodes/78-Dan-Sugarman-Ice-Nine-Kills-e3hk043
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Nik Nocturnal chats with Dan Sugarman of Ice Nine Kills about 2000s metalcore, the evolution of modern metal, and what really makes a riff hit. They also dive into creativity, life experiences, and finding purpose through music. Get 30% off Neural DSP with code NOCTURNALPODCAST: https://neuraldsp.com

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