# A New (Old) Apple with Todd, Cameron, and John

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Podcast: [New Species](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-species-3517520)
Published: 2025-08-12T10:26:43+00:00
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## Resource

The moment John Bunker saw the 200+ year old tree, he knew it might be special. He had no idea however, that it was one of America’s oldest surviving apple trees, a French ancestor to many of the apple varieties we know and love today. Combining Todd Little-Siebold’s historical research and Cameron Peace’s genetic work, in this special interview the three of them are able to tell a story of this apple tree that is not unlike the story of many new species discoveries. A transcript of this episode can be found here: Drap d'Or Bretagne New (Old) Species and cultivar: Drap d'Or Bretagne Maine Public Radio feature: https://www.mainepublic.org/maine/2025-06-02/on-verona-island-historians-discover-one-of-the-oldest-living-apple-trees-in-north-america MOFGA press release: https://www.mofga.org/news/apple-discovery-announcement/ Local news article (paywalled): https://www.bangordailynews.com/2025/05/04/homestead/gardening/one-of-north-americas-oldest-apple-trees-on-maine-island-joam40zk0w/ Learn more about MOFGA: mofga.org (See you at the Common Ground Country Fair!) John’s website: outonalimbapples.com My Fruit Tree Project: myfruittree.org Be sure to follow New Species on Bluesky (@newspeciespodcast.bsky.social) and Instagram (@NewSpeciesPodcast) and like the podcast page on Facebook (www.facebook.com/NewSpeciesPodcast). Music in this podcast is "No More (Instrumental)," by HaTom (https://fanlink.to/HaTom) If you have questions or feedback about this podcast, please e-mail us at NewSpeciesPodcast@gmail.com If you would like to support this podcast and enjoy bonus episodes, please consider doing so at https://www.patreon.com/NewSpeciesPod

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