# nrc22 | Shaping the narrative around Bitcoin & human rights w/ Lyudmyla Kozlovska & Kasia Szczypska

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Podcast: [new renaissance capital](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-renaissance-capital-6459193)
Published: 2024-01-12T04:22:00+00:00
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Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Katarzyna (Kasia) Szczypska are freedom fighters. They serve as President and Chief Advocacy Officer of the Open Dialogue Foundation, an organization that works to free political prisoners in former Soviet states, helps deliver aid to Ukraine and supports independent mothers in Poland. The organization also educates global policy makers about the importance of Bitcoin and the role it plays in upholding human rights. The work that Lyudmyla and Kasia do is not for the faint of heart, and they need your support. Take a listen to what they have to say, and consider where you might be able to lend a hand to support their efforts. Follow Lyudmyla, Kasia and the Open Dialogue Foundation on social media: X (Twitter): @LyudaKozlovska @KSzczypska @ODFoundation YouTube: @odfoundation Check out and donate to The Open Dialogue Foundation: https://en.odfoundation.eu/ Help the open dialogue combat financial exclusion: https://en.odfoundation.eu/projects-and-campaigns/combating-financial-exclusion-and-work-of-btc-coalition/ Donate to the Open Dialogue Foundations's "Defend PoW" campaign to help them defend Proof of Work (Bitcoin mining) with European regulators: https://geyser.fund/project/defendpow Timestamps: 0:00 Cold open 0:36 Intro music 0:50 Frank's introduction 2:59 Lyudmyla introduces herself explains what she does 9:00 Kasia introduces herself 12:40 Lyudmyla discusses being de-banked 20:59 Kasia on personal and financial freedom 27:39 What is the FATF? 32:25 Different attacks on Bitcoin 35:43 The importance of shaping the Bitcoin narrative 40:58 The biggest accomplishments and challenges of the Open Dialogue Foundation 48:19 What is happening in Ukraine? 54:10 What if Russia brought its style of governance to a neighboring US country? 58:18 Kasia recoun…

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