# Is Israel heading towards AUKUS? The bigger story behind the submarines

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Podcast: [New Politics: Australian Politics, News, Analysis & Commentary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-politics-australian-politics-news-analysis-commentary-711789)
Published: 2026-06-11T21:00:02+00:00
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## Resource

For years, the debate over AUKUS has focused on submarines, costs and delivery schedules, but the bigger story may be Australia’s growing integration into American military and defence systems. This week, we examine new legislation before the US Congress that would deepen defence technology cooperation between the United States and Israel, and what that could mean for Australia through AUKUS Pillar II. As artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons, cyber warfare and advanced military networks become increasingly interconnected, questions are emerging about Australian sovereignty, strategic independence and who ultimately controls critical defence decisions. Is AUKUS simply a submarine program, or is it part of a much larger project that could reshape Australia’s military, foreign policy and relationship with the United States and Israel for decades to come? #AUSPOL #AUKUS #geopolitics #NewPoliticsPodcast Subscribe to New Politics for weekly briefings and full analysis: www.newpolitics.com.au Support New Politics: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/newpolitics Substack: https://newpolitics.substack.com Song listing: ‘La Femme d’Argent’, AIR.

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