# Marinus De Jong, "A Church for a Secular World: The Development of Klaas Schilder's Ecclesiology" (Brill, 2025) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-network-529292/marinus-de-jong-a-church-for-a-secular-world-the-development-of-klaas-schilder-s-ecclesiology-brill-2025 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-network-529292/marinus-de-jong-a-church-for-a-secular-world-the-development-of-klaas-schilder-s-ecclesiology-brill-2025.md Podcast: [New Books Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-network-529292) Published: 2026-06-14T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK1166719475.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK1166719475.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-network-529292/episodes/marinus-de-jong-a-church-for-a-secular-world-the-development-of-klaas-schilder-s-ecclesiology-brill-2025 Duration seconds: 2116 ## Resource The relationship between the Church and the world has been a subject of debate since the Church's earliest days. In ⁠A Church for a Secular World: The Development of Klaas Schilder's Ecclesiology⁠ (Brill, 2025), Marinus De Jong explores how Stanley Hauerwas, with his emphasis on the Church as polis, made a significant contemporary contribution—one that has also faced strong criticism. This study examines the distinctive insights of second-generation neo-Calvinist theologian Klaas Schilder (1890-1952) on this issue. Neo-Calvinism is renowned for its development of Reformed theology, particularly in this area, and Schilder builds on this tradition with a critical eye. Engaging with the increasing secularity of the twentieth century, he carefully interacts with Karl Barth's writings while refining his own perspective. In doing so, Schilder's position comes close to the Anabaptist stance of Hauerwas, yet remains firmly rooted in the Reformed understanding of creation. Marinus de Jong, Ph.D., is assistant professor of the theology of neo-Calvinism at Theologische Universiteit Utrecht, the Netherlands. He co-editedThe Klaas Schilder Reader: The Essential Theological Writings (Lexham, 2022). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-network-529292/episodes/marinus-de-jong-a-church-for-a-secular-world-the-development-of-klaas-schilder-s-ecclesiology-brill-2025/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-network-529292/marinus-de-jong-a-church-for-a-secular-world-the-development-of-klaas-schilder-s-ecclesiology-brill-2025.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.