# Drew M. Dalton, "The Matter of Evil: From Speculative Realism to Ethical Pessimism" (Northwestern UP, 2024) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622/drew-m-dalton-the-matter-of-evil-from-speculative-realism-to-ethical-pessimism-northwestern-up-2024 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622/drew-m-dalton-the-matter-of-evil-from-speculative-realism-to-ethical-pessimism-northwestern-up-2024.md Podcast: [New Books in Critical Theory](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622) Published: 2026-05-17T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK2042128884.mp3 Audio file: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK2042128884.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622/episodes/drew-m-dalton-the-matter-of-evil-from-speculative-realism-to-ethical-pessimism-northwestern-up-2024 Duration seconds: 4363 ## Resource Most of us today would assume that morality and ethics, being value propositions, are questions for inspired leaders, religious creeds, poets—in other words, for the humanities. But what if I told you that we can construct a system of ethics and morality by studying math—more specifically: the laws of thermodynamics? That’s what Professor Drew M Dalton argues in his latest book. Dalton traces a line of metaphysical inquiry from Kant through Spinoza, Nietzsche, and others up to today to show how we get from E=mc2 to a full-throated call to resist evil and alleviate suffering to our very last breath. By overturning our assumptions about the nature and value of reality, The Matter of Evil: From Speculative Realism to Ethical Pessimism (Northwestern UP, 2024) presents a provocative new model of ethical responsibility that is both logically justifiable and scientifically sound. Dalton argues for “ethical pessimism,” a position previously marginalized in the West, as a means to cultivate an account of ethical responsibility and political activism that takes seriously the unbecoming of being and the moral horror of existence. Drew M. Dalton is a professor of English at Indiana University, having received his Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of Leuven in Belgium. His research focuses on the normative implications of different metaphysical systems and, specifically, he’s interested in how questions of right and wrong, good and evil, beauty and pleasure are framed within aesthetics, literary theory, ethics, and political philosophy. He is the author of Longing for the Other: Levinas and Metaphysical Desire (Duquesne University Press, 2009), The Ethics of Resistance: Tyranny of the Absolute (Bloomsbury, 2018), and The Matter of Evil: From Speculative Realism to Ethical Pes… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622/episodes/drew-m-dalton-the-matter-of-evil-from-speculative-realism-to-ethical-pessimism-northwestern-up-2024/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-critical-theory-962622/drew-m-dalton-the-matter-of-evil-from-speculative-realism-to-ethical-pessimism-northwestern-up-2024.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.