# Mia Martin Hobbs, Carolyn Holbrook⁠, and Joan Beaumont, "Challenging Anzac: Stories That Don't Fit the Legend" (NewSouth, 2026) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383/mia-martin-hobbs-carolyn-holbrook-and-joan-beaumont-challenging-anzac-stories-that-don-t-fit-the-legend-newsouth-2026 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383/mia-martin-hobbs-carolyn-holbrook-and-joan-beaumont-challenging-anzac-stories-that-don-t-fit-the-legend-newsouth-2026.md Podcast: [New Books in Australian and New Zealand Studies](https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383) Published: 2026-04-25T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK5402824007.mp3?updated=1776973633 Audio file: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/NBNK5402824007.mp3?updated=1776973633 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383/episodes/mia-martin-hobbs-carolyn-holbrook-and-joan-beaumont-challenging-anzac-stories-that-don-t-fit-the-legend-newsouth-2026 Duration seconds: 3699 ## Resource Challenging Anzac: Stories that don’t fit the legend Edited by Mia Martin Hobbs, Carolyn Holbrook, and Joan Beaumont The Anzac legend has shaped Australia’s national identity for more than a century. Yet many experiences of war do not fit comfortably within this. In Challenging Anzac, leading historians explore some of these stories: Aboriginal activists, deserters on the Western Front, veterans who took their own lives and soldiers who became radicalized by their service. They reveal how episodes in Australia’s war history that unsettled the Anzac legend – from the relief of Tobruk, nuclear testing on Australian soil and feminist protests against war, to alleged atrocities in Afghanistan – have been elided or adapted to ‘fit’ the legend. Edited by award-winning historians Mia Martin Hobbs, Carolyn Holbrook and Joan Beaumont, Challenging Anzac examines how the reality of warfare has always been at odds with mythic representation and considers why, despite this, the Anzac legend has survived. Mia Martin Hobbs is an oral historian of war and conflict, with a research focus on the Vietnam War, War on Terror, gender, peace, security and postwar reconciliation. Her first book, Return to Vietnam: An Oral History of American and Australian Veterans’ Journeys, won the Oral History Australia Book Award in 2022 and was highly commended for the Memory Studies First Book Award in 2023. She has written widely on anti-war veteran activism, war crimes and the impact of the Anzac revival on Australian veterans’ war memory. She is presently an ARC DECRA fellow at Deakin University. Carolyn Holbrook is a historian at Deakin University. Her latest books are Challenging Anzac: Stories that Don’t Fit the Legend, co-edited with Mia Martin Hobbs and Joan Beaumont (2026), Australia Fair? Demo… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383/episodes/mia-martin-hobbs-carolyn-holbrook-and-joan-beaumont-challenging-anzac-stories-that-don-t-fit-the-legend-newsouth-2026/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/new-books-in-australian-and-new-zealand-studies-507383/mia-martin-hobbs-carolyn-holbrook-and-joan-beaumont-challenging-anzac-stories-that-don-t-fit-the-legend-newsouth-2026.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.