# US & EU Nuclear ESCALATION Is Insane | Profs. I. Hughes & P. Kuznick

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Published: 2026-05-18T15:50:47+00:00
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## Resource

Pascal Lottaz speaks with Ivana Nikolić Hughes of Columbia University and Peter Kuznick of American University about the NPT review conference, nuclear deterrence, first strike thinking, Trump and launch power, pressure for more states to seek nuclear weapons, the role of US allies in the Gulf, Europe and Japan, and the small but real hope offered by the nuclear ban treaty and public action. Links: Ivana Nikolić Hughes at Nuclear Age Peace Foundation: https://www.wagingpeace.org/ivana_nikolic_hughes/ Ivana Nikolić Hughes at Columbia University: https://www.columbia.edu/cu/chemistry/fac-bios/nikolic/faculty.html Peter Kuznick at American University: https://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/kuznick.cfm The Untold History of the United States by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick: https://www.simonandschuster.net/books/The-Untold-History-of-the-United-States/Oliver-Stone/9781982102531 Neutrality Studies substack: https://pascallottaz.substack.com (Opt in for Academic Section from your profile settings: https://pascallottaz.substack.com/s/academic) Merch: https://neutralitystudies-shop.fourthwall.com Donation: https://neutralitystudies.com/donate Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:24 Global danger and NPT review 00:05:05 Proliferation pressures rise 00:08:38 Deterrence and first strike risk 00:17:26 Disarmament failure and collapse 00:23:19 Iran and the limits of war 00:29:28 Trump and nuclear launch power 00:43:42 US allies and security shifts 00:56:17 Nuclear ban treaty and final hope

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