# The Next Ukraine: West Destroys Armenia | H. Ishkhanyan & N. Navasardyan

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Published: 2026-06-15T16:31:24+00:00
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Pascal Lottaz speaks with Armenian dissidents Hovanes Ishkanyan and Nare Navasardian about the latest election in Armenia, claims of rigging, arrests of opposition figures, pressure on the church, and the danger of the Zangezur corridor plan. They also discuss foreign influence, the Artsakh issue, and why they believe Armenia’s statehood is under threat.Links:Aknandakan:Facebook: / aknandakan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ Website: www.aknandakan.orgSubstack: https://substack.com/@aknandakan Neutrality Studies substack: https://pascallottaz.substack.com (Opt in for Academic Section from your profile settings: https://pascallottaz.substack.com/s/a... )Merch: https://neutralitystudies.com/shop Donation: https://neutralitystudies.com/donate Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction and guest backgrounds 00:02:31 Armenia election fraud claims 00:10:45 Foreign backing and early reactions 00:15:44 Corridor plan and regional goals 00:20:40 Bribes, arrests, and repression 00:25:40 Artsakh, refugees, and state threat 00:33:29 Threshold trick and recount dispute 00:38:52 Army voting and list problems 00:44:01 Why the opposition stayed calm 00:51:59 Final thoughts on Armenia’s future

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