# The Next ESCALATION Against Russia | Dr. Jeff Rich

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Published: 2026-07-20T01:01:15+00:00
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## Resource

Jeff Rich, Australian historian and creator of The Burning Archive, joins Pascal Lottaz to discuss NATO’s changing role, Europe’s growing military stance toward Russia, and the limits of the “US vassal” view. They trace the history and emotion behind anti-Russian feeling, question “civilization” as a political lens, and examine Australia’s ties to Russia, migration, and the US-led order.Jeff's great Interview with Richard Sakwa: • Video Links:The Burning Archive Substack: https://jeffrich.substack.com The Burning Archive YouTube: / @theburningarchive Neutrality Studies substack: https://pascallottaz.substack.com Merch: https://neutralitystudies.com/shop Donation: https://neutralitystudies.com/donate Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and NATO 3.0 09:22 NATO, Europe, and US power 21:02 The long roots of anti-Russianism 36:00 Civilization, realism, and fear 50:28 Australia, Russia, and migration

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