# The Beginning of the End in the Middle East?

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Podcast: [Net Assessment](https://stenobird.com/podcast/net-assessment-336019)
Published: 2026-08-13T10:01:00+00:00
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Chris, Melanie, and Zack debate Michael Fuchs's recent article arguing for a U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East. They also discuss the impact of the Iran War and shifting American attitudes towards Israel as well as the Saudi-U.S. nuclear deal and the Saudi-Turkish-Pakistani collective defense agreement. Chris commends the Congressional Budget Office's battleship assessment, and Melanie gives credit to CSIS's team for its work on munitions, while Zack laments the Congress giving the executive branch more leeway on tariffs. *The Net Assessment Podcast is hosted by the Stimson Center and produced by University FM. Show Links: Michael Fuchs, " America Must Let Go of the Middle East ," Foreign Affairs, August 8, 2026. Matthew Kroenig and Henry Sokolski, " The Saudi Nuclear Deal Invites Disaster ," Wall Street Journal, July 26, 2026. Daniel Poneman, " Critics of the U.S.-Saudi Nuclear Deal Have It Exactly Wrong ," New York Times, August 6, 2026. " Advancing American Safety, Strength, and Prosperity in Southeast Asia ," U.S. Mission to ASEAN, July 23, 2026. Neil Irwin, " Trump may get a big, new tariff authority ," Axios, August 6, 2026. " The Navy's New Battleship Program: Costs and Implications for the Shipbuilding Industrial Base, Congressional Budget Office ", August 5, 2026. Philip E. Auerswald, " The Irrelevance of the Middle East ", The American Interest, May 2007 Justin Logan, " Why the Middle East Still Doesn't Matter ", Politico Magazine, October 9, 2014. " The U.S.-Saudi Agreement for Civil Nuclear Cooperation: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions ", Arms Control Association, August 7, 2026. Christopher Preble and Alessandro Perri, " Assumption Testing: The Iran War Is a Case of Alliance Entanglement ", Stimson Center, August 3, 2026. Christopher Preble and Luc…

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