# How to Grow as a Leader: 44 Years at Chick-fil-A - Mark Miller

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Podcast: [Big Swings Only](https://stenobird.com/podcast/negotiate-anything-5844366)
Published: 2026-07-30T09:00:00+00:00
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He couldn't keep a job at Chick-fil-A. Then the founder personally hired him — and 44 years later, he retired as one of the company's top executives. Mark Miller started as a teenager who kept getting laid off, until a strange twist of fate put him face-to-face with Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-fil-A, for a job interview in the company's warehouse. In this episode, Mark shares how that unlikely beginning turned into a 44-year career, the mindset shift that changed everything — "your capacity to grow determines your capacity to lead" — and why he believes lifelong learning isn't just an activity, it's an identity you choose to become. If you've ever felt like you're starting from the bottom with no clear path up, this conversation will change how you think about growth, leadership, and what it really takes to build a career that lasts decades. Connect with Mark Phone number : +1 678 612 8441 Website: leadeveryday.com Connect with Kwame: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠negotiateanything.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!⁠⁠⁠ @kwamenegotiates across all social platforms

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