# Episode 46 | Dr. Level Up (Steven Kelso): Teaching Leadership Principles Through a Fantasy Lens

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Podcast: [NCMU Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ncmu-podcast-6417789)
Published: 2026-02-05T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/0410f3ed
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Duration seconds: 2884

## Resource

In this episode of the NCMU Podcast , host Mark welcomes Dr. Level Up (Steven Kelso) for a thoughtful conversation on the evolution of nerd culture ministry and the vital role of behind-the-scenes contributors. They discuss the impact of the Nerd Culture Ministry Summit (NCMS) , the challenges of working within Christian content spaces, and the importance of investing in quality creation. Dr. Level Up also shares the inspiration behind The Guiding Lantern , a fantasy-driven project designed to teach leadership and discipleship principles, as well as his journey through content creation and community building. This episode is a meaningful listen for anyone passionate about faith, fandom, and ministry done well. Website: https://lovethynerd.com/podcastnetwork/ncmu/

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