# Moneyball for Main Street: The Fund That Bets on Singles, Not Home Runs Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/nc-tweener-talks-7053588/moneyball-for-main-street-the-fund-that-bets-on-singles-not-home-runs Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/nc-tweener-talks-7053588/moneyball-for-main-street-the-fund-that-bets-on-singles-not-home-runs.md Podcast: [NC Tweener Talks](https://stenobird.com/podcast/nc-tweener-talks-7053588) Published: 2026-06-04T06:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/34c56d5b Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/34c56d5b/fcd26473.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nc-tweener-talks-7053588/episodes/moneyball-for-main-street-the-fund-that-bets-on-singles-not-home-runs Duration seconds: 3323 ## Resource Most of us know Asheville as beer city, foodtopia, a playground for retirees and 14 million visitors a year. Jeffrey opens by updating that picture. Eighteen months out from Hurricane Helene, which hit on a Friday in late September 2024, the data is starting to come in. The long-term employment hit was about half that of COVID. Decades of population growth stopped in 2025 and even declined for the first time, but the in-migration that remains is now strongest among 25-to-34-year-olds: prime working-age professionals, not retirees. Jeffrey walks through what’s back (Biltmore Village, the River Arts District, High Wire’s new year-round pickleball courts) and what’s gone forever, and lands on a word he keeps coming back to: optimism. From there, we steer into the heart of the episode: Optimist Ventures and the funding mechanism Jeffrey invented, the SPA note. The origin story is its own lesson in adaptation. Optimist began as a half-million-dollar grant from the Dogwood Health Trust. Then Helene hit, and within the same week a founder in the program, Ginger Frank of Poppy Popcorn, called wanting to commit $100,000, but to a grant program, not a fund. Rather than walk away, Jeffrey spent days thinking until he landed on a hybrid: half the capital as grants and philanthropy, half in a for-profit vehicle for accredited investors, with every for-profit dollar matched by a donation. Boom: enter the SPA or shared profit agreement. The conversation closes on what’s next, whether this model can scale to Charlotte or Raleigh, and a heartfelt ask about how the rest of the state can help Asheville finish its recovery. Highlights Moneyball the Portfolio: Instead of chasing one home run, Jeffrey set out to build a book of “singles and doubles”… companies that just need to survive six… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/nc-tweener-talks-7053588/episodes/moneyball-for-main-street-the-fund-that-bets-on-singles-not-home-runs/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/nc-tweener-talks-7053588/moneyball-for-main-street-the-fund-that-bets-on-singles-not-home-runs.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.