# The National Police Association Podcast with Guest, John Nantz, FBI Supervisory Special Agent (Ret.) Part 1

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Podcast: [National Police Association Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/national-police-association-podcast-7101287)
Published: 2026-08-09T17:26:53+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the National Police Association Podcast, Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith (Ret.) welcomes back retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent and Townhall columnist John Nantz for Part One of a conversation about his recent opportunity to sit down with FBI Director Kash Patel. Nantz and fellow retired FBI agent Chris Hinkle were invited to FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C., where they spent several hours with Director Patel discussing his leadership of the Bureau, his relationship with state and local law enforcement, changes inside FBI Headquarters, and his efforts to shift resources and authority back into the field. Nantz explains that the invitation grew out of his Townhall column, "The End of the Empty Suit Era," and a subsequent relationship that allowed him and Hinkle to provide Patel and his team with perspectives from retired FBI agents. From Joint Terrorism Task Forces and local police partnerships to SWAT operations, field offices, transparency, and changing the culture at FBI Headquarters, this episode provides a retired agent's perspective on what is happening inside today's FBI. In this episode: Patel's "let cops be cops" philosophy Rebuilding FBI partnerships with state and local law enforcement Expanding and streamlining Joint Terrorism Task Forces Nantz's impressions of the changing atmosphere at FBI Headquarters How FBI SWAT teams operate The role of the Hostage Rescue Team and Critical Incident Response Group Why experienced retired agents are again being invited to provide input to Bureau leadership https://x.com/TheJohnNantz https://www.facebook.com/TheJohnNantz/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-nantz-4323451a8/

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