# 187. From Small Talk to Smart Talk: How to Build and Sustain Conversations

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Podcast: [My English Matters](https://stenobird.com/podcast/my-english-matters-3533096)
Published: 2026-01-17T03:47:20+00:00
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## Resource

If you’ve ever felt awkward or unsure during small talk, you’re not alone.In this session, we’ll explore why small talk is essential for connection, common challenges faced by Malaysians and second-language speakers, and simple, practical tips to help you move from small talk to more confident, meaningful conversations. To learn even more with us, make sure to sign up to our FREE course, Speaking with Confidence. Go to myenglishmatters.com/subscribe to sign up!

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