# The Enemy of My Enemy is Still a Corporation

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Podcast: [muckrAIkers](https://stenobird.com/podcast/muckraikers-7026051)
Published: 2026-04-13T17:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://kairos.fm/muckraikers/e022
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## Resource

In this episode, Jacob and Igor break down the DoD vs. Anthropic standoff, tracing how Claude's use in military operations led to Anthropic being designated a supply chain security risk. Perhaps more importantly, why did Anthropic choose to take a stand now , and what can that tell us about the corporations behavior moving forward. The investigation is used as a case study in how to read the real motivations behind big institutions: intrinsic values, rational self-interest, and realpolitik. Chapters (00:00) - Introduction (00:44) - DoD-Anthropic Standoff (15:08) - 3 Buckets of Motivation (35:39) - How to Read What They're Actually Doing (44:04) - Is This Designation Even Real? (53:39) - Recap (Pragmatist's Playbook) Critical Links Below are the most important links for this episode. For more, visit the episode page on Kairos.fm. Ed Zitron subtack article - The AI Bubble Is An Information War TechPolicy.Press article - A Timeline of the Anthropic-Pentagon Dispute TechPolicy.Press podcast episode - How to Think About the Anthropic-Pentagon Dispute BBC news article - Anthropic vows to sue Pentagon over supply chain risk label The Guardian article - AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is far more worrying Palantir YouTube video - Multi-Domain AI: The Future of Command and Control Into AI Safety podcast episode - Drawing Red Lines w/ Su Cizem

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