# Episode 112: No Seagulling

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Podcast: [MSP Chat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/msp-chat-6703058)
Published: 2026-02-20T15:05:39+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4070

## Resource

Erick and Rich discuss the reasons MSPs need to be implementing AI automation tools and the risk limits they should consider when doing so, as well as concrete strategies for growing profits and exit value by simplifying your tool stack and customer base. Then they’re joined by Pinar Ormeci of Lexful to discuss that company’s ambitious new AI-native system of record for MSPs. And finally, one last thing: A boxing ring TKO in which the “T” stands for toupee rather than technical. Discussed in this episode: Summary of Omdia’s 2026 MSP predictions Lexful Goes God-Mode on AI Boxer loses hairpiece in the ring and blames mother’s shampoo Some guests on this podcast are clients of Channel Mastered. Compensation plays no part in their appearance or the content of the discussion unless the episode they appear on is a “bonus episode” explicitly labeled as sponsored.

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