# Real Conversations with Chase & Ben: Play the long game?

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Podcast: [MPW Digital](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mpw-digital-742425)
Published: 2026-05-17T18:13:37+00:00
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## Resource

Chase Parham and Ben Craddock are back with another edition of Real Conversations. How does it work to play the long game versus being bothered by a lack of quick recognition or value? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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