# Insurance Giants are Running Out of Time (feat. François de Brantes)

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Podcast: [Moving to Value Unscripted](https://stenobird.com/podcast/moving-to-value-unscripted-6695836)
Published: 2026-07-07T16:58:55+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/moving-to-value-alliance/episodes/Insurance-Giants-are-Running-Out-of-Time-feat--Franois-de-Brantes-e3lpbq1
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## Resource

The legacy insurance machine is running out of time, and the pendulum is swinging back toward employers. Healthcare innovation pioneer François de Brantes lays out a ruthless, no-compromise blueprint for self-insured employers to reclaim control of their healthcare spend. Currently the Executive Vice President of Payment Innovation and Network Performance at XO Health, de Brantes pulls zero punches in discussing how the industry has crossed the line into unabashed stealing from corporate pockets. He breaks down a 25-year industry regression, as corporate giants which once demanded 100% unredacted claims data ceded that power to carriers. He exposes the opaque consultant commission schemes serving as the carriers' last line of defense, and he outlines how employers can use new transparency mandates to fulfill their legal fiduciary duties and protect themselves from liability. Stop playing defense and stop settling for point-solution pennies. Tune in for an unfiltered masterclass on how to finally force transparency and real value from the healthcare system. Find a transcript of this episode at movingtovalue.org/transcript/debrantes ________ Sign up for our email list. Thank you to our members who make our work possible! As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the Moving to Value Alliance relies on generous supporters to advance our mission of creating a value-based healthcare ecosystem with high-quality health outcomes at a reasonable cost for plan sponsors and their members. Get involved at movingtovalue.org/members .

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