# Nark 14 | Second Thoughts

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Podcast: [Motive: The Lost](https://stenobird.com/podcast/motive-conviction-7551469)
Published: 2025-11-25T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/motive?share=0be5f30b-3591-4a66-aa0c-d2f97d5b9244
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Duration seconds: 3535

## Resource

Mike Wesley-Smith puts Ross Appelgren’s claims of innocence under the microscope in this episode. While much of what Mike’s uncovered so far puts question marks over Ross’ guilt, there are bits of the story that point to him being the killer. Read more stories and see images from Nark on the RNZ website Special thanks to everyone who helped bring this podcast to life, especially Julie Appelgren and Suzanne Young. And thanks to Ngā Taonga and Mediaworks for some of the archival audio. AI was used to recreate the voice of Ross Appelgren. The only words used were those he wrote or said during his lifetime. If you have any further information on this case, please email nark@rnz.co.nz Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

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