# 85. What's the point?

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Podcast: [Mothering Ourselves Mindfully](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mothering-ourselves-mindfully-7036456)
Published: 2026-03-31T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.theschoolofmom.com
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What's the point? It's a question that can feel heavy — or become one of the most grounding, clarifying inquiries of your life. In this episode, I'm zooming way out on the School of MOM exists, the personal through-lines that have shaped this work, and what I truly hope for every mother who walks with me here. If you've ever found yourself swirling in the "why" of it all — around mothering, your life, your work — this one's for you. Key Points How to ask "what's the point?" from a place of curiosity rather than shutdown — and why the difference matters (nervous system style) The two personal through-lines behind the founding of the School of MOM: not becoming her, and becoming the mother to yourself that you never had Why Sarah is estranged from her mother — and how that painful, personal reality became the heart of this work The "Apples" community: women who carry the weight of estranged or dysfunctional mother relationships, and why they don't need to explain themselves Why the goal isn't to learn more — it's integration: closing the gap between what you know and what you actually live in your body The two roots of integration: embodied application of what you're learning, and wholeness — welcoming and tending to all parts of yourself Flourish State Journaling: a powerful (and a little creepy-magical) practice for inhabiting your flourishing life as if it's already here Why community is the secret ingredient that makes integration sustainable A real-time moment from right before recording: what it looked like to actually be the Flourished Mother for her daughter — and why that's the whole point Quotes "What's the point? Not from the lens of 'what's the point' — that's very dorsal vagal, very shutdown. But what is the point?" "The next best person to fill the hole tha…

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