# 77. UPDATE: How and why I'm unscaling the MOM Program

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Podcast: [Mothering Ourselves Mindfully](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mothering-ourselves-mindfully-7036456)
Published: 2026-02-05T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.theschoolofmom.com
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In this short episode walking in a very snowy woods, I share an important shift I'm making with the MOM Program—and it's all about unscaling. While the business world tells us to scale, grow bigger, and involve ourselves less, I'm doing the opposite. I'm choosing intimacy, connection, and the kind of small group work I know transforms mothers' lives. If you've been contemplating joining but feeling stuck on time, logistics, or that familiar "will I actually follow through?" pattern, this episode is for you. Key Points Why I'm "unscaling" the Mom Program from multiple groups to one intimate cohort of 15 women The common thread in conversations with mothers: overwhelm, time scarcity, and the gap between what we know is good for us and what we're actually doing How I'm simplifying the structure: 8 weeks, Mondays at 12pm Eastern, 8 live calls—that's it The real question underneath "Can I make the time work?"—it's usually programming, not logistics Why money struggles are directly connected to your relationship with your mother (the "Money Matrix" = "Mother Matrix") The bonus I'm adding for early enrollees: a 30-minute one-on-one call to work through whatever's getting in your way Why most time obstacles aren't actually about moving mountains—they're about asking and worthiness work How this program is designed so you can't hide—accountability baked into the small group structure Why now is always the best time (and why I may not run another cohort in 2026 as I focus on writing my book) Quotes "It's just not my jam to strip down what I know is so powerful and important for women and mothers, and that is intimacy and connection." "I don't wanna sign up for something that I know I'm not gonna follow through with. Like I don't wanna sign up for more shame on myself." "When we…

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