# 137: You Do Have To Care w/ John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne

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Published: 2026-06-23T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Aaron is joined by John & Daniel of Thunk to talk about why you should think like a PM, what they want to see from Solo, trash cans in New York, "footy", and a whole lot more. Sponsored by Laracon AU , Honeybadger , Bento , Vask , and DropInBlog . Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical? Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more. Going to Laracon? Sign up for the Mostly Technical Pre-Party ! (00:00) - Introduction to the Thunk Boys (04:13) - Working on Laravel Forge (09:22) - What does Daniel do? (14:30) - Big week for New York (22:34) - World Cup Social Media (29:13) - Laravel Live (36:33) - AI Code Responsibilities (41:52) - Think Like A PM (51:08) - Do Old Best Practices Still Apply? (58:12) - Daniel's Solo Gripes & Asks (01:20:34) - Tidy (01:24:02) - Where Is Ian? Links: Thunk Talking Businessly Tighten Laravel Forge Laravel Live UK Laravel Live Japan Laravel Live Denmark Solo Tidy

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