# 133: Do The Hardest Thing with Jesse Hanley

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Podcast: [Mostly Technical](https://stenobird.com/podcast/mostly-technical-6567048)
Published: 2026-05-26T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Aaron is joined this week by Jesse Hanley, founder of Bento, to talk about building a seven figure business, why he feels less stress now than he did when he started, migrating from Heroku to Planetscale, and more. Sponsored by InterNACHI , Honeybadger , Bento , Vask , and NativePHP Ultra Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical? Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more. Going to Laracon? Sign up for the Mostly Technical Pre-Party ! (00:00) - 5 TB of Data (11:12) - Laravel Live Japan (15:46) - Seven Figure Business (24:32) - Advice for Indie Hackers (28:57) - Pick Better Problems (32:50) - Friends of Bento (42:33) - Heroku to Planetscale (01:15:02) - What's Next Links: Jesse Hanley Speedshop Jesse's Database School episode Tatami Dragonfly RedisShake Laravel Live Japan Daniel Coulbourne

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