# 127: Charge It To The Game w/ John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne

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Published: 2026-04-14T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Ian is joined by John Drexler & Daniel Coulbourne of Thunk to talk about their new app Tidy, what constitutes a moat in the age of AI, why phone spam is the absolute worst, and so much more. Sponsored by SavvyCal Appointments , Bento , & Laravel Private Cloud . Interested in sponsoring Mostly Technical? Head to https://mostlytechnical.com/sponsor to learn more. (00:00) - Bottomless Pits (03:05) - Tidyup.agency (15:30) - Zero Risk Agency (23:23) - The Schtick Is The Moat (37:52) - You Might Need To Pay Some Professionals (44:53) - Everyone's Playing Their Hands (52:39) - Business Dad Thoughts (01:22:03) - The Hard Pitch Links: Thunk Daniel Coulbourne John Drexler Tidy Talking Businessly Ep 89 w/ Justin Jackson Laravel Road Show: New York City Silicon Valley clip 'Why would you go after revenue?' Laravel Partners Arango

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