# Massachusetts Took Their Daughter After They Refused To Affirm Her Gender Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/morning-wire-4095034/massachusetts-took-their-daughter-after-they-refused-to-affirm-her-gender Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/morning-wire-4095034/massachusetts-took-their-daughter-after-they-refused-to-affirm-her-gender.md Podcast: [Morning Wire](https://stenobird.com/podcast/morning-wire-4095034) Published: 2026-09-27T08:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/pfx.vpixl.com/3Q5mz/claritaspod.com/measure/mgln.ai/e/121/traffic.megaphone.fm/BVDWV4666854698.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/pfx.vpixl.com/3Q5mz/claritaspod.com/measure/mgln.ai/e/121/traffic.megaphone.fm/BVDWV4666854698.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/morning-wire-4095034/episodes/massachusetts-took-their-daughter-after-they-refused-to-affirm-her-gender Duration seconds: 925 ## Resource Joseph and Arlene Kutzko have spent nearly two years fighting to regain custody of their daughter, Sophie, after Massachusetts intervened when she began identifying as a boy. The Kutzkos say the state’s allegations of abuse were baseless and that officials are keeping their daughter from them because they refuse to affirm her gender identity on religious grounds. Morning Wire sits down with the couple and their attorney, Vernadette Broyles, to discuss the legal battle, the national attention surrounding the case, and whether other families face similar circumstances. Get the facts first with Morning Wire.- - -Ep. 3112- - -Wake up with new Morning Wire merch: https://bit.ly/4lIubt3- - -Today's Sponsors:Fabletics - Shop now at https://Fabletics.com/wire to get 70- 80% off everything when you sign up as a new VIP. Alliance Defending Freedom - Visit https://JoinADF.com/WIRE or text WIRE to 83848 to make TWICE the impact for freedom today.- - -Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacymorning wire,morning wire podcast,the morning wire podcast,Georgia Howe,John Bickley,daily wire podcast,podcast,news podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/morning-wire-4095034/episodes/massachusetts-took-their-daughter-after-they-refused-to-affirm-her-gender/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/morning-wire-4095034/massachusetts-took-their-daughter-after-they-refused-to-affirm-her-gender.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.