# "It's a Story of Hubris": NYT journalists Maggie Habeman and Jonathan Swan on their new book analyzing Trump's second term, "Regime Change"

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Published: 2026-06-23T12:37:00+00:00
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"It's a Story of Hubris": NYT journalists Maggie Habeman and Jonathan Swan on their new book analyzing the first year of Trump's second term, 'Regime Change'

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