# MTM - Interview with Joe Wolverton..Nullification

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Podcast: [More Than Medicine](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-than-medicine-83624)
Published: 2026-03-21T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1410

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Send us Fan Mail What if the Constitution’s simplest safeguard has been hiding in plain sight? We dive into nullification as a clean, contract-based concept: the states, as principals, created a federal agent with enumerated powers, and when that agent wanders outside the four corners of the contract, the states can treat those actions as void. No saber-rattling, no chaos—just the same logic courts use every day when parties breach an agreement. With constitutional lawyer Joe Wolverton, we u...

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