# Does the average teacher really earn £54,000? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-867746/does-the-average-teacher-really-earn-54-000-2 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-867746/does-the-average-teacher-really-earn-54-000-2.md Podcast: [More or Less](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-867746) Published: 2026-07-08T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002ym84 Audio file: http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download-rss/proto/http/vpid/p0nztt04.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/more-or-less-867746/episodes/does-the-average-teacher-really-earn-54-000-2 Duration seconds: 1708 ## Resource Tim Harford investigates some of the numbers in the news. This week: (00:32) A government minister has informed the nation that average teacher pay in England is around £54,000. Radio 4 listeners are howling at the radio in disbelief. Surely someone from the IFS would be able to explain all this? We interview someone from the IFS to explain all this. (06:32) A headline in the Independent suggests that Russian soldiers survive an average of 20 minutes when they get to the front line, citing a historian, citing Russian bloggers. Is the number a good one? We take a peek into the murky information ecosystem that surrounds the war in Ukraine. (15:00) A loyal listener has resent a burning question that - mortifyingly - he first asked us nearly three years ago: why is air travel cheaper than rail travel? We push our guilt deep, deep down then make it worse by challenging the premise of the question. (21:18) Is every shuffle of a deck of cards an unprecedented event in the history of the universe? It’s a bold claim, but maths YouTuber and comedian Matt Parker has done his homework. We invite him into the studio to make his case - and show off his shuffling skills. More or Less is the programme that looks at numbers and statistics in news and in life. We’re always looking for questions from listeners - you can contact us on moreorless@bbc.co.uk . Guests: Luke Sibieta - Research Economist at the Institute for Fiscal Studies Andrey Vladov - BBC Monitoring Mark Galeotti - author of Forged in War - A Military History of Russia from its Beginnings to Today Simon Calder - Travel Correspondent at the Daily Telegraph Matt Parker - Mathematician, comedian and YouTuber (Stand-up Maths) Presenter: Tim Harford Series Producer: Tom Colls Reporter: Josh McMinn Producers: Nathan Gower, Lizzy… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/more-or-less-867746/episodes/does-the-average-teacher-really-earn-54-000-2/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-867746/does-the-average-teacher-really-earn-54-000-2.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.