# Fire Sam Altman, The End of Software Engineers, and Why AI Is All Narrative

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Podcast: [More or Less](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141)
Published: 2026-03-06T17:00:00+00:00
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This week the squad breaks down the Anthropic vs OpenAI drama (Fire Sam Altman is trending again), debates whether Apple is quietly winning the AI race by spending $0 while everyone else burns $100 billion, and confronts the question no one in Silicon Valley wants to answer: why aren't 200,000 software engineers talking about losing their jobs? Sam's answer: "Because it would be to admit you're in the 200,000 getting fired, not the 200,000 getting paid more." Plus: is China winning the open source AI phenomenon, is a recession coming (Lux Capital thinks so), and how Sam believes “code is just content” despite having built six apps in a week while on conference calls, including an AI clone of the podcast using everyone's real voices. It’s your weekly dive of More or Less. Chapters: 1:30 — Fire Sam Altman Trending Again: Dario's Leaked Slack Memo 10:15 — Sam's Vibe Coding Week: 6 Apps Including AI Versions of the Hosts 17:00 — Why AI Content Tends to Zero 20:00 — Apple M5 Chip: The Local AI Inference Play 23:30 — Block Cuts 40% of Workforce 25:30 — Will 200,000 Bay Area Software Engineers Lose Their Jobs? 30:00 — "Code Wins Arguments — But Now Everyone Can Code" 34:30 — Josh Wolfe's (Lux Capital) Recession Warning Email 36:30 — The Triangle Trade: DC, Silicon Valley & Wall Street's Narrative Collusion 39:00 — Yemen/Houthi Strike & Defense Tech 41:00 — Is Open Source AI a Chinese Phenomenon? 46:00 — The Second Wave: Agents Are the Website of This Era 49:00 — David's Protein Ice Cream We’re also on ↓ X: https://twitter.com/moreorlesspod Instagram: https://instagram.com/moreorless YouTube: https://youtu.be/UIdKqkNCymQ Connect with us here: 1) Sam Lessin: https://x.com/lessin 2) Dave Morin: https://x.com/davemorin 3) Jessica Lessin: https://x.com/…

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