# More or Less

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Official site: https://moreorlesspod.com/
Author: Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin
Episodes: 159

## Resource

Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures. Follow the crew: http://x.com/davemorin http://x.com/brit http://x.com/lessin http:/x.com/jessicalessin Follow the pod: https://moreorlesspod.com/ http://youtube.com/moreorlesspod https://x.com/moreorlesspod

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## Episodes
- [OpenAI Offered the Government a Stake. Is This a Distress Signal?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/openai-offered-the-government-a-stake-is-this-a-distress-signal) — 2026-07-10T12:00:00+00:00
- [Why Identity Verification Matters For The Internet | Vox Americanus, GLM 5.2, Claude Fable 5 Is Back](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/why-identity-verification-matters-for-the-internet-vox-americanus-glm-5-2-claude-fable-5-is-back) — 2026-07-03T12:00:00+00:00
- [Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, and More AI Talent War](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/chinese-ai-model-glm-5-2-beating-frontier-models-meta-glasses-polymarket-scandal-and-more-ai-talent-war) — 2026-06-26T12:00:00+00:00
- [Elon Is the Best Financier of Our Generation](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/elon-is-the-best-financier-of-our-generation) — 2026-06-19T12:00:00+00:00
- [Teamshares IPO: $60M EBITDA, 92 Companies, Zero Exits](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/teamshares-ipo-60m-ebitda-92-companies-zero-exits) — 2026-06-17T12:00:00+00:00
- [Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/apple-s-new-siri-spacex-s-300b-ipo-the-ai-company-killing-its-own-brand) — 2026-06-12T12:00:00+00:00
- [Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/silicon-valley-ipo-summer-2026-spacex-anthropic-openai-explained) — 2026-06-05T12:00:00+00:00
- [Did Anthropic Use the Pope as a Marketing Stunt? Ft. Amir Efrati](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/did-anthropic-use-the-pope-as-a-marketing-stunt-ft-amir-efrati) — 2026-05-29T13:00:00+00:00
- [SpaceX IPO Date Talk + OpenAI Confidential Filing Rumors](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/spacex-ipo-date-talk-openai-confidential-filing-rumors) — 2026-05-22T12:00:00+00:00
- [Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/google-s-ai-first-laptop-meta-s-spy-games-ai-monks-in-middle-america) — 2026-05-15T15:42:25+00:00
- [Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/why-the-met-gala-hates-tech-elon-vs-openai-drama-and-the-rise-of-chinese-ai-models) — 2026-05-08T16:00:00+00:00
- [Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/elon-musk-vs-openai-trial-google-cloud-surge-meta-s-blocked-acquisition-anthropic-winning) — 2026-05-01T16:00:00+00:00
- [What Tim Cook’s “Executive Chairman” Move Really Means | Musk vs OpenAI, xAI and Cursor Rumors](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/what-tim-cook-s-executive-chairman-move-really-means-musk-vs-openai-xai-and-cursor-rumors) — 2026-04-24T22:58:30+00:00
- [Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/allbirds-pivoted-to-ai-data-centers-spacex-1-5t-ipo-anthropic-800b-175m-seed-rounds) — 2026-04-17T16:00:00+00:00
- [Vercel CEO: 70% of Our Traffic Is Now AI Agents "Nobody Was Prepared" | Anthropic, OpenClaw, OpenAI](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/vercel-ceo-70-of-our-traffic-is-now-ai-agents-nobody-was-prepared-anthropic-openclaw-openai) — 2026-04-10T16:00:00+00:00
- [AI Agents Destroying Internet Security (Anthropic's Leak, ClawCon Tokyo, OpenAI's $852B Valuation)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/ai-agents-destroying-internet-security-anthropic-s-leak-clawcon-tokyo-openai-s-852b-valuation) — 2026-04-03T16:00:00+00:00
- [The New Startup Stack: One Founder + Agents | Henrik Werdelin (Audos) and Ben Broca (Polsia)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/the-new-startup-stack-one-founder-agents-henrik-werdelin-audos-and-ben-broca-polsia) — 2026-03-27T16:00:00+00:00
- [Nvidia's GTC, Apple Blocking Vibe-Coding Apps, Meta's Rogue AI Agent](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/nvidia-s-gtc-apple-blocking-vibe-coding-apps-meta-s-rogue-ai-agent) — 2026-03-20T16:00:00+00:00
- [Anthropic’s Bet on Coding Is Working (OpenAI Shopping Pivot, A16Z’s Top 50 List, $1B Tennis Channel)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/anthropic-s-bet-on-coding-is-working-openai-shopping-pivot-a16z-s-top-50-list-1b-tennis-channel) — 2026-03-13T16:00:00+00:00
- [Fire Sam Altman, The End of Software Engineers, and Why AI Is All Narrative](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/fire-sam-altman-the-end-of-software-engineers-and-why-ai-is-all-narrative) — 2026-03-06T17:00:00+00:00
- [Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/apple-openai-why-nobody-makes-money-in-ai-the-saas-apocalypse) — 2026-02-27T17:00:00+00:00
- [OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/openclaw-vs-meta-vs-openai-the-personal-agent-wars-heat-up) — 2026-02-20T19:19:54+00:00
- [Why OpenAI Can't Win The Decentralized AI Future (OpenClaw, Apple's Win, X.AI Exodus)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/why-openai-can-t-win-the-decentralized-ai-future-openclaw-apple-s-win-x-ai-exodus) — 2026-02-13T17:42:04+00:00
- [SpaceX + xAI Merger, Google Earnings, and and the Bot-Filled Internet](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/spacex-xai-merger-google-earnings-and-and-the-bot-filled-internet) — 2026-02-06T17:00:01+00:00
- [Agentic AI Will Break the Internet (ClawdBot, OpenAI & the AI Demand Delusion)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-or-less-6425141/agentic-ai-will-break-the-internet-clawdbot-openai-the-ai-demand-delusion) — 2026-01-30T17:00:00+00:00

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