# The Valley’s Tom Schwartz on Conflict Avoidance and Reinvention

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Podcast: [More Life with Carl Radke](https://stenobird.com/podcast/more-life-with-carl-radke-7652241)
Published: 2026-05-19T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Carl and Tom Schwartz have known each other for a decade, and it shows. Tom Schwartz (Vanderpump Rules, The Valley) joins Carl on More Life to get into his return to Bravo and how he’s changed post-Vanderpump Rules, the new love bringing his sparkle back, closing TomTom, and the family chapter unfolding off-camera. It's vulnerable, funny, and full of the kind of hard-won wisdom only Tom Schwartz can deliver. This one’s a good reminder that reinvention is always possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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