# The Sages of CRE

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Podcast: [Moody's Talks - Inside Economics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/moody-s-talks-inside-economics-3677209)
Published: 2026-03-31T18:35:36+00:00
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## Resource

Moody's commercial real estate experts Tom LaSalvia and Kevin Fagan join Mark, Marisa, and Cris to take stock of where CRE markets stand today. Tom and Kevin go beyond the headlines to unpack the nuances driving the office market's uneven recovery, multifamily's supply-driven growing pains, and retail's quiet comeback. Their verdict: measured confidence — provided the broader economy cooperates. As a bonus, Tom reveals the philosopher alter ego hiding inside each host. Spoiler alert: not everyone gets to be Socrates.

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