# How much is a trillion?

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Podcast: [Money, Power, Politics with Stephanie Ruhle](https://stenobird.com/podcast/money-power-politics-with-stephanie-ruhle-7904577)
Published: 2026-06-22T17:01:15+00:00
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June 22nd, 2026; 9am: What we know about the high level negotiations between the U.S. and Iran as the fallout grows for Trump on Capitol Hill. Plus, the world's first trillionaire - what his power could mean for the country. And, as talks between the U.S. and Iran progress, there is still confusion over the Strait of Hormuz and who will have control of it moving forward. Is it open or closed? What will this mean for gas prices? Dave Weigel, David Drucker, Tyler Pager, Mychael Schnell, Gautum Mukunda, Gillian Tett and Amos Hochstein join Money Power Politics this morning.

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