# Roth Conversion & Direct Indexing Strategies

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Podcast: [Money Matters by Allworth Financial](https://stenobird.com/podcast/money-matters-by-allworth-financial-173477)
Published: 2026-03-14T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://podcast.moneymatters.com/e/roth-conversion-direct-indexing-strategies/
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## Resource

In this episode of Money Matters, Scott and Pat break down smart Roth conversion strategies for retirees who want to reduce lifetime taxes, manage future RMDs, and avoid costly bracket mistakes. A caller with $4+ million asks how much to convert each year — and whether moving IRA withdrawals into a brokerage account makes sense as part of a long-term Roth conversion plan. They also discuss direct indexing, including how it works, whether low-cost providers are safe, and when direct indexing makes sense compared to backdoor Roth contributions. Plus, a real client case study highlights asset location, ETF overconcentration, muni bond mistakes, and how coordinated Roth conversion and tax planning can potentially add six figures over time. What You’ll Learn: -How to structure a Roth conversion tax-efficiently -When direct indexing makes sense — and when it doesn’t -Why asset location matters more than most investors realize -How to reduce future RMD and IRMAA surprises -The hidden risks inside “diversified” ETF portfolios Join Money Matters: Get your most pressing financial questions answered by Allworth's co-founders Scott Hanson and Pat McClain. Call 833-99-WORTH. Or ask a question by clicking here. You can also be on the air by emailing Scott and Pat at questions@moneymatters.com. Download and rate our podcast here.

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