# How Central Banks Use the Natural Rate of Interest Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013/how-central-banks-use-the-natural-rate-of-interest Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013/how-central-banks-use-the-natural-rate-of-interest.md Podcast: [Monetary Policy Explained with Fexingo: Central Banks, Money Supply, and Interest Rates](https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013) Published: 2026-06-28T19:43:15+00:00 Episode link: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/monetary-policy-explained/episode-0079.mp3 Audio file: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/monetary-policy-explained/episode-0079.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013/episodes/how-central-banks-use-the-natural-rate-of-interest Duration seconds: 488 ## Resource In Episode 79 of Monetary Policy Explained with Fexingo, Lucas and Luna dive into the natural rate of interest — also known as R-star — the theoretical neutral rate that neither stimulates nor restricts the economy. They unpack why central banks like the Fed, ECB, and Bank of Japan obsess over this elusive number, how it guides monetary policy decisions, and why it seems to be declining across developed economies. Using real-world examples from the post-2008 era and the current tightening cycle in 2026, they explain how estimates of R-star influence everything from interest rate decisions to quantitative easing programs. The hosts also discuss the practical challenges of measuring a rate that can't be directly observed, and why recent research suggests R-star may be even lower than previously thought. Packed with specific data points and clear explanations, this episode helps listeners understand one of the most important — and least understood — concepts in modern central banking. #NaturalRateOfInterest #RStar #MonetaryPolicy #CentralBanks #FederalReserve #ECB #BankOfJapan #NeutralRate #InterestRates #Macroeconomics #LucasAndLuna #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast #EconomicsExplained #PolicyTool #RealInterestRate #PotentialGrowth #LaubachWilliams Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013/episodes/how-central-banks-use-the-natural-rate-of-interest/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-policy-explained-with-fexingo-central-banks-money-supply-and-interest-rates-7872013/how-central-banks-use-the-natural-rate-of-interest.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.