# Navigating the SaaS Apocalypse: Why AI Disruption is Mispriced | Deiya Pernas | Pernas Research

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Podcast: [Monetary Matters with Jack Farley](https://stenobird.com/podcast/monetary-matters-with-jack-farley-7021905)
Published: 2026-04-19T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Monetary Matters listeners can save 20% on their first-year subscription to Pernas Research: http://pernasresearch.com/monetarymatters Software stocks have plummeted as the market prices in existential threats from AI capabilities and the rise of "vibe coding". In this episode, Deiya Pernas of Pernas Research explains why he believes the market is entirely misjudging the resilience of smaller SaaS companies. He argues that real-world integrations, enterprise-grade security, and privileged API access create powerful moats that simple code generation cannot easily replace. Pernas also reveals a previously multi-billion-dollar enterprise company that he sees 100% upside in over the next 12 months. Tune in to discover how to navigate the current "SaaS apocalypse" and identify mispriced opportunities in the market. Follow Pernas Research on X: https://x.com/pernasresearch Follow Max Wiethe on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Timestamps: 00:00 SaaS Apocalypse Setup 00:43 Pernas Research Offer 02:02 Software’s Second Leg Down 04:21 What Really Disrupts 07:23 Spotting Real Pivots 08:58 Valuations Hit 3x EV/Sales 11:27 When Sentiment Flips 14:03 Real World SaaS Focus 15:32 Vibe Coding Reality Check 17:52 Research Tools and Hiring 19:09 Pernas Research Offer 22:57 Sprout Social Pitch 25:37 Moat via API Access 28:12 Competition and TAM 32:16 Sprout Growth Outlook Ahead 33:49 Stock Comp Debate 36:57 3 More Bullish Stocks 38:33 Xometry Marketplace Explained 44:57 Xometry Scaling and Profit Path 46:04 Remitly vs. Wise 49:11 Migration Theme and Risks 52:29 Policy Shock and Risk Mindset 55:22 Portfolio Volatility Playbook 59:11 Conclusion

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